Athiestforum.org is a terrorist hole; accrding to new Saudi law. Human Rights Watch

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Yea well to be fair, we have religious dicks over here too, it's just that we have had a longer time keeping our nuts on a leash. 

Funny you should mention this new "change". It is being reported here and you have more knowledge than we do, but I was just watching a report that they want to become more "moderate". 

The Middle East needs its version of Jefferson and Paine. But America's far right seems to have forgotten Jefferson and Paine and want to backslide.

"Moderation" doesn't come with torture and massacres. The crimes the regime did in Yemen and locally has no good side. If the regime used foreign mercs; its enemies will use local thugs, contractors from Black Water are already here, and in front of them there are angry Wahhabi fanatics. It's a royal fight, and royal fights include lots of brutality, considering that:

1-They are Bedwins
2-They have lots of money
3-They purchased the services of lots of brutal fucks

It won't advance; it will collapse. Unless a unified knowledge of the value of innocent souls and human rights showed up from the ruins.
I expect a very very large disaster. Just like so many experts said.

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Religion brings itself into disrepute.  All we do is point it out.

Not "all" religion. When the bombs fall; belief makes more sense. Healthy belief; at least, not the mess people made of faith. The mess we are in today is because of people trying to slap each other with religion.