RE: What is your opinion about Communism?
November 25, 2017 at 12:48 pm
(This post was last modified: November 25, 2017 at 1:00 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(November 25, 2017 at 12:23 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 25, 2017 at 6:43 am)pool the matey Wrote: C'mon CL... Look at some of the things in the article:
Not having internet must be pretty crappy but it'd be a stretch to call it inhumane or anything.
This will probably sound pretty harsh and I don't support it either but the truth of the matter is it is very normal for higher ups in political power to kill their opposition or kill for political gain..Everybody does it, yes America does it as well, Cuba, Russia, does it as well, in fact it would be probably impossible to find a country without at least a couple thousand political deaths..but consider this, it is estimated that Fidel Castro that once ruled over Cuba has killed around 3000 people in his lifetime, the figure is probably overblown for shock effect but it's still probably around there somewhere. 3000 people in his lifetime...now, that's probably the amount of people that are killed by us drone strikes and deaths in conflict areas...in a single year..... If we're going to use "no of people killed" as a sort of scale to measure how evil people are then...
You forgot all the stuff about how they have no personal freedoms, hardly any electricity nationwide, and are lied to by the Government about all kinds of things.
But like I said, that's very light reading and doesn't show the real ugliness and oppression.
Just to be factual, North Korea no longer claims to be communist or claim to follow the teaching of Marx or Lenin. The communistic or Marxist phraseology has even been written out of the North Korean constitution.
North Korea is now explicitly an ethnostate that doctrinally pursue autarchy both by declaration and in practice. This is Fundamentally in conflict with the most basic tenants of classic Marxist or Leninist communism, which are internationalist.
Also, to be accurate, Leninist communism is not just some utopian ideology of voluntary community ownership. It is in principle an imperial ideology that explicitly seeks to aggrandize itself without recognition of traditional national or ethnic borders through any coercive means necessary, and does not recognize the legitimacy of national boundaries and believes itself universally applicable and must be universally applied for the good of humanity. In fact it generally believes its own survival depends on its own continued expansion. Marxism and Leninism may be considered unusually, perhaps uniquely internationalist amongst major political ideologies. Stripped of the Internationalism, one might say communism as we’ve come to understand the term wouldn’t be real communism. So the ethnocentric and autarchic outlook of North Korea is not communistic.
At its heart, Leninist communism is also both overreachingly extravagant in its ambition, and paranoid in its out Look. It simultaneously claims 1) total confidence in the perfection of its own outlook and its own limitless growth, thus justifying why people should follow it, as well as 2) profess to be continuously in mortal danger from “class enemies” seeking to overthrow it from within and capitalist imperialist enemy states seeking to throttle it from abroad, thus requiring continued commitment to a siege mentality and acceptance of brutal measures to ensure comformity. However, these aspects are by no means unique to communists. Fascism and Nazism depended on these same things. To a lesser degree trumpism also appeal to these things. So while North Korea retained these attributes bequeathed to it by its communist past, these do not make it communist.