(November 28, 2017 at 2:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That first force needs to be something that is not bound by the same laws as everything else in the natural, physical world/universe. Which is why we say it was a supernatural force.
The laws themselves aren't bound by themselves . . . and there's no more reason to think they were created by something eternal than to think they themselves are eternal or they themselves are part of the nature of something eternal.
And again, if all you mean by "supernatural" is something not bound by the laws of physics then that's once again misleading because it has nothing to do with miracles or God. There's nothing "super" about it. It's not even non-natural or outside natural existence, it's merely the first element of natural existence that wasn't bound by the natural laws that came into being thereafter. There's no reason to think that all of nature must be bound by natural laws, just all of nature since the natural laws have been around. Maybe before the natural laws came into being there was natural lawlessness, and to call that "Supernatural" or "God" is just misleading and playing with words.