(November 28, 2017 at 2:47 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(November 28, 2017 at 2:41 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I find the greatest mastery in nature itself working with wind and the elements and the play of life over the planet. No gods required. But go on deflecting the praise deserved by the natural world on to the creation of your imagination.
You can assert time and time again that no God is required, but that won't make the proofs go away, just be a shortcoming on your part, I live in a place where secular theories were taught to me about everything, I bought evolution and all the geology non-sense of how things cam to be for a time. Half-knowledge and half baked theories can make anything seem true or reasonable.
Cults arise from half baked knowledge. But when you begin to seek certainty and you know things for certain, and work with what you know for certain, you will see the propaganda is just that, propaganda.
The problem is not the evidence, it's the way it's analyzed. Even fallacies which I hinted before about, they are trying do away with foundational ways human speak and often proper reasoning.
It happens to be you can't just cut and dry say "this and that" is always a fallacy for a lot of the supposed fallacies- it's situational, reasoning, just like courage is situational and can go to extremism of foolishness and idiocy or carelessness or haughtiness or combination of that.
And to be good is part of reason and reason is part of goodness, and so there is unity in a lot things we think are not together.
Yeah, yeah .. insert more jerk off emojis here.