RE: Arguments for God's Existence from Contingency
November 28, 2017 at 2:58 pm
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2017 at 2:59 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 28, 2017 at 2:47 pm)Cyberman Wrote:(November 28, 2017 at 2:42 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: You have not even come close to showing evolution as absurd only that your ignorant of it. And we are not in a masterpiece were in a cosmos .
Exactly. Knight, I truly hope you never have to depend on any kind of medical aid that wouldn't even exist if not for evolution.
Why? He can take all the benefits and still credit a god, right?
I mean, whenever the modern medicine of science saves a life the theists are gonna thank a god anyway. They're annoying like that. It's the same with prayer:
Quote:[...]The best thing about saying thank goodness in place of thank God is that there really are lots of ways of repaying your debt to goodness—by setting out to create more of it, for the benefit of those to come. Goodness comes in many forms, not just medicine and science. Thank goodness for the music of, say, Randy Newman, which could not exist without all those wonderful pianos and recording studios, to say nothing of the musical contributions of every great composer from Bach through Wagner to Scott Joplin and the Beatles. Thank goodness for fresh drinking water in the tap, and food on our table. Thank goodness for fair elections and truthful journalism. If you want to express your gratitude to goodness, you can plant a tree, feed an orphan, buy books for schoolgirls in the Islamic world, or contribute in thousands of other ways to the manifest improvement of life on this planet now and in the near future.
Or you can thank God—but the very idea of repaying God is ludicrous. What could an omniscient, omnipotent Being (the Man Who has Everything?) do with any paltry repayments from you? (And besides, according to the Christian tradition God has already redeemed the debt for all time, by sacrificing his own son. Try to repay that loan!) Yes, I know, those themes are not to be understood literally; they are symbolic. I grant it, but then the idea that by thanking God you are actually doing some good has got to be understood to be just symbolic, too. I prefer real good to symbolic good.
Still, I excuse those who pray for me. I see them as like tenacious scientists who resist the evidence for theories they don't like long after a graceful concession would have been the appropriate response. I applaud you for your loyalty to your own position—but remember: loyalty to tradition is not enough. You've got to keep asking yourself: What if I'm wrong? In the long run, I think religious people can be asked to live up to the same moral standards as secular people in science and medicine.
Source: https://www.edge.org/conversation/daniel...k-goodness