(November 28, 2017 at 4:31 pm)Cyberman Wrote:(November 28, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thats what many folks here say, but based on my observation over the past 2 years, it seems very much like for most people here it is indeed a strong disbelief, not simply a lack of belief.
Nonetheless, my point still stands, whether it's worded as lack of belief or disbelief.
That's what happens when you confuse atheist with atheism. Vegetarians might also have a moral aversion to alcohol, the bastards, but that isn't vegetarianism.
I say again, atheism is neither a lack of belief nor disbelief (in theistic claims); it is belief's absence. Now with that in mind, many atheists, myself included, take the pragmatist position and live their lives as if no gods exist. It's rather like deciding not to bother waiting in for Kylie Minogue to show up at the door. Sure, I might be risking finding a "sorry I missed you - KM xxx" note on the doormat, but so far I've been pretty accurate.
That's fair enough. I guess if atheism is described as lack of belief and lack of disbelief, i see no difference between that and agnosticism, or even apathy.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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