Religion stifles Moral Evolution

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Religion stifles Moral Evolution

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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution

December 1, 2017 at 4:29 pm

(December 1, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Bigotry
All my fear seemed so far away
I was never half the man I will never be
All because of bigotry

If only it was "Yesterday."

(December 1, 2017 at 4:17 pm)SteveII Wrote: Believe it or not, NT morality is a higher standard even as it has less specific do's and don'ts.

I think it's a bit of a mixed bag, Steve.

On the one hand you have things like Matthew 25:35-40, which promotes acts of kindness.
On the other hand you have the baffling concept of substitutionary atonement, with Jesus as a sacrifice to remedy a problem that mortals supposedly cannot remedy by their own actions (which makes me wonder how the powerless mortals could have created the problem in the first place).

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Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Cecelia - December 1, 2017 at 12:21 am

RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 12:25 am

RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 8:13 am

RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Brian37 - December 1, 2017 at 9:49 am

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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 8:49 am

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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Brian37 - December 1, 2017 at 12:50 pm

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RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by Catholic_Lady - December 1, 2017 at 7:02 pm

RE: Religion stifles Moral Evolution - by The Grand Nudger - December 1, 2017 at 9:21 am

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