(December 1, 2017 at 5:49 pm)Cecelia Wrote: I think it's odd that Christians try to bring up personal responsibility, when they can't even take personal responsibility for their own bigotry and hatred. Instead they toss it off on god. "Oh, we don't hate gay people"! they'll say. "We just want them to be miserable, and think they're diseased."
On to the OT... I mean it's not like the NT outlaws slavery either. And if the OT is supposedly a stricter form of morality, that's weird cause Rape is totally okay in the OT so long as you marry her.
Religions do eventually catch up on some of the issues. Mainly because society forces them to, because otherwise they have a hard time converting anyone. It's hard to say you're morally superior when you're far from it. Currently the distance isn't quite enough to make religions leap forward and jump on the "it's okay to be gay" train. (Though some denominations are already there. Probably because they take the whole treating others right thing seriously. And kudos to them for that.) But a lot of Christians will justify it with "Not what god wants." Which is a dangerous mindset. If God suddenly wants you to go around and murder children, I surely hope you decide (unlike Abraham) that's not a great idea.
If a religion teaches something is wrong, then the adherents of that religion are by definition, not bigoted or hateful for adopting it. They could be, but not necessarily so.
The OT is not a stricter form of morality--not at all. Read Matthew 5.
Give me an example how Christianity, based on the NT (and not some other agenda) has "eventually [caught] up on some of the issues". It's nice to assert these things in support of your conclusion, but they are hard to refute when they are so vague.
