(August 19, 2011 at 4:18 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: I have actually seen presupposition apologetics used very effectively against the Islamic faith. The Quran does not provide the same basis for the preconditions of intelligibility that the Bible does. Furthermore, even if it could be used to support other forms of theism (which it can’t), this still would not by default make atheism the rational choice. Atheists should still drop their atheism and start examining which form of theism is correct. This, "Well I know the answer has to be an even number but I don't know which one so I am going to stick with an odd number." approach is just irrational. Can you see the point I am getting at? Good to see you by the way, it's been awhile.
Actually, we agnostic atheists say we don't know if it is an even or an odd number so we choose not to speculate, but we do know that it can't be a specific value of '4' as the Christians claim. By saying one should choose which theism is right, you presuppose that a god is necessary, which we atheists are unwilling to do. The stance of the agnostic atheist is that no presuppositions on the existence of god should be made, therefore specific gods can only be judged on their nature, which is why we dismiss the Christian god.
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Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell