(August 19, 2011 at 4:33 pm)FaithNoMore Wrote: Actually, we agnostic atheists say we don't know if it is an even or an odd number so we choose not to speculate, but we do know that it can't be a specific value of '4' as the Christians claim. By saying one should choose which theism is right, you presuppose that a god is necessary, which we atheists are unwilling to do. The stance of the agnostic atheist is that no presuppositions on the existence of god should be made, therefore specific gods can only be judged on their nature, which is why we dismiss the Christian god.
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I know that agnostic atheists say these things but they do not live like it, that's the whole point of this form of apologetics. The agnostic atheist may say that he knows the answer is not "4" but he then turns around and lives his life like it is "4". So agnostic atheists use certain assumptions that can only be justified in the Christian worldview. For instance, I assume you discount the Christian God because you disagree with His morality. However, in an atheistic world there would be no basis for having a transcendental morality to even judge God by. Van Til makes this point, he says that atheists are like the girl sitting on her father's lap slapping him in the face, the only reason she is able to even do that is because she is sitting on his lap. The only reason atheists can even argue against the existence of the Christian God is because they live in a universe created by Him.
Thanks, I was up at camp teaching high schoolers how to run fast
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