Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.

[Statler Waldorf]

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I know that agnostic atheists say these things but they do not live like it, that's the whole point of this form of apologetics. The agnostic atheist may say that he knows the answer is not "4" but he then turns around and lives his life like it is "4". So agnostic atheists use certain assumptions that can only be justified in the Christian worldview. For instance, I assume you discount the Christian God because you disagree with His morality. However, in an atheistic world there would be no basis for having a transcendental morality to even judge God by. Van Til makes this point, he says that atheists are like the girl sitting on her father's lap slapping him in the face, the only reason she is able to even do that is because she is sitting on his lap. The only reason atheists can even argue against the existence of the Christian God is because they live in a universe created by Him.

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The only reason you can argue against Allah, is because you are in a universe created by him. Do you see the problem now?

Also I don't know what you mean by we know the answer isn't 4, but we live like it is anyway.
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This method cannot be used to support Allah because the Quran does not provide a basis for the necessary preconditions of intelligibility, scripture does however. That is why this can be used even in arguing with Muslims. It's not like you have to just make that statement and stop there, it's a whole discipline of stepping through and showing the person exactly why they live in a world created by the Christian God who revealed Himself in scripture. That's why I don't like Wikipedia, it never really gets things right.

I was just trying to stick with our math analogy, it didn't work so well.
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