(December 5, 2017 at 11:51 pm)Haipule Wrote:(December 5, 2017 at 9:57 pm)Whateverist Wrote: I'm guessing this has to do with why you are defending God, but I'm not sure.1.) I am not defending God here. The people here don't know Him so what is the point. I am defending the bible which they also do not know. They are strawmanning God's Word and twisting it: telling lies about God's Word just like the church does.
You mean God was/is this historical guy Jesus born a couple millennia ago? Somewhere in that bible book you love/hate so much it also says Jesus is the way. Are you sure he isn't pointing to his example rather than his historical self? I lean toward interpreting that symbolically rather than literally.
So you're signing on to the anti-theist = possessing serious objections to theist ideology? You seem to have serious objections to what mainline Christians believe yourself. Are you an anti-theist?
2.) Jesus as God IS the way, truth and life. He then is the Shepherd and not just an example. Do you really think He would leave it to us stupid sheep? Jesus is not humanistic and our children are not the future of the world; He is, thank God!
Jesus only says, "You follow Me!" We can never understand the consequences of our decisions no matter how good we might think they are. Better to follow and trust the Alpha and Omega Who has the power to keep His promise of zOE-life and that, more abundant then to compete with Him foolishly. As David said, "The Lord is the one Shepherding me." "I SHALL LACK NOTHING!"
That was very hard to learn and do.
When God says "YES", He is not saying "NO",
When God says "NO", He is not saying "YES",
When God says "STAY", you cannot "GO",
When God says "GO", you cannot "STAY".
He has His ways. YES, NO, STAY, GO: It's so easy even I can do it!
God's purpose plainly stated in Scripture is to glorify YOU! Why? Because if you look good to others then, God looks good to them! Then we become a walking talking testimony and living witness of His glory! Greek doxa translated as "glory" means: to shine like a star in the night sky; shine like a candle in a dark room. He also said, "Don't hide it".
We Christians are here to understand HIS faith; HIS hope; HIS love: HIS righteousness; HIS glory. We SUCK!
I am definitely theistic. I LOVE God. I LOVE the bible. I CAN'T STAND man's theology! I am not going back to that muck as a shiny pig! I am not a dog returning to MY own vomit to see if there are any tasty chucks!
The church has become altogether useless!
Stay shiny my friend!
Alrighty then. No further questions. Enjoy your life and chosen faith.