RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice?
August 20, 2011 at 5:18 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2011 at 5:35 am by diffidus.)
(August 17, 2011 at 11:22 am)Rhythm Wrote: To describe people who hold religious beliefs as morons is offensive. It is also accurate. Think of it as a sliding scale whereby those that hold beliefs more strongly edge closer and closer to moron, and those that are liberal and metaphoric are simply confused.
Diffidus:
What about Isaac Newton or Albert Einstein?
(August 17, 2011 at 12:32 am)padraic Wrote: The question assumes I give a rat's turd about what some moron says. AND that I share his view of the meaning and value of the word 'cowardice' .Moral values are not things I allow others to define for me.
There are perhaps 5 people on earth to whom I will sometimes justify myself. None are on an internet forum. Neither do I care about some dill arrogant enough to assert their personal view (say agnosticism) is the only rational or viable one.
Diffidus:
Then why are you telling us?
(July 11, 2011 at 11:45 am)Rhythm Wrote: I don't know if lazy is the right word. Convenient, perhaps. The position of agnosticism can be leveraged to remove arguments from both the atheist and the theist. It also has to be said that agnosticism stood in as a alternative to the choice between "this god or no god", and was an argument developed before we had access to much of the information that one might use in forming an argument for atheism or theism today. In essence it was the divine "I don't know"....a strong argument for it's time.
Diffidus:
I am pleased you see it as a strong argument. But not just for its time.
We may know more than we did in previous times but how much do we know now. What if mankind's current state of knowledge were just a drop in the ocean? The fact is we don't know how much we don't know and so the agnostic argument is as strong as ever.
(July 12, 2011 at 7:40 pm)Ashendant Wrote: It's the opposite religion is intellectual cowardice
Just as explained by futurama
Diffidus:
I agree that religion is, like atheism, intellectual cowardice. In fact, any notions that are not based upon the facts as they exist are intellectually unsafe.