RE: Should we discard achievements made by unlikable people?
December 18, 2017 at 11:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 18, 2017 at 11:04 pm by bennyboy.)
(December 18, 2017 at 1:59 am)Hammy Wrote:Conditioning is in fact learning, by definition. But I'm not sure wtf you are talking about right now, to be honest. I was talking about psychopathy, and about how I communicate with others to discover if my own impulses and instincts are unique to me or common among others. What does "societal conditioning" have to do with any of that?(December 17, 2017 at 5:46 pm)bennyboy Wrote: This is how we learn-- we start with our own experience, and then attempt to communicate with others.
That's irrelevant. Societal conditioning is not the same as learning. There's a such thing as being miseducated.
Quote:A triggering of psychopathy? What utter bullshit. Psychopathy is either 1% of the population, 3% of the population or 100% of the population. And I am either one of the biggest psychos around and everyone else is as well . . . or I am not a psycho.Again. . . not sure what you are trying to say right now. You seem to be excited about something, given your language, but I'm having trouble seeing a point that you're trying to make.
(December 18, 2017 at 12:45 am)wallym Wrote: The duality of people. There's who someone is, and who they want to be. For many people, the discrepancies are simple. I wish I would eat healthier and go to the gym more, but they don't. But then there are people suffering from alcoholism, or drug abuse, or rage, etc...
Mel Gibson has always been fascinating to me, because who he is is an alcoholic with rage problems and all sorts of racism. But it's not who he tries to be, which is why people who work with him tend to rave about him. I think because his experience fighting himself allows him to be more sympathetic to others who are also in that sort of fight, and he's shown some understanding to folks who others that the mob wanted to toss in the trash.
Interesting discussion. If someone is struggling against for example addiction, but sometimes relapses and does something terrible (like drive drunk and get caught ranting by Jews), what stance should we take? "He's such a noble guy-- he struggles with his addictions and personality problems, and finds a way to produce great art" or "Fuck that guy. . . fucking drunk driving Jew hater!"
He's both at times, but the intent seems primarily to be toward the art.
