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Should we discard achievements made by unlikable people?
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RE: Should we discard achievements made by unlikable people?
(December 22, 2017 at 3:53 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: I'm not doubting this story, but how do we know they didn't fudge the data if we can't recreate it ourselves. That's how we confirm science,  by recreating experiments.

Also a lot of that just sounds like torturing people, not a valid controlled (repeatable) experiment.

Also what is the undeniable positive influence on medicine? Can you be more specific? I mean, antibiotics had been invented so the plague wasn't really a problem.

Honestly, my saying that they weren't fudging the data is a guess that exists largely because from my (admittedly meagre in comparison to my knowledge of Nazi atrocities) research not trolling up any sign that the Japanese establishment was pushing any preposterous pseudosciences like the Nazis were. I don't know for certain, but it seems plausible they weren't playing up results to curry favour with the Emperor. Also, they could theoretically be recreated; it's just that doing so would require breaking every law known to man and some of the larger canines.

Quite a bit of the memories of the experiments from the survivors have lost their context, but there's still quite a bit of information about the sort of things they were using to experiment on, from biological warfare to treatment of frostbite (seriously, the exact mechanism behind frostbite was actually discovered in Unit 731's experiments). Here's a relatively short look into the context behind the carnage (no pictures, fortunately.)

Also, the vast majority of antibiotics used to treat plague (streptomycin being the sole exception) were discovered after the US government encountered Unit 731. And it seems they had yet to connect plague to streptomycin at that point.
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RE: Should we discard achievements made by unlikable people? - by Rev. Rye - December 22, 2017 at 10:17 pm

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