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Life is nothing
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RE: Life is nothing
(January 4, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote: If we are just created by chance and nothing else, then what's the point of living if in the end, we are just gonna die and be forgotten? If we are nothing but a bunch of cells and sperms that had evolved over time, then why must we care and love one another? And no, saying that we need others to survive is not an valid answer. I don't care about surviving. If life's is just about surviving, then that means we should only care about ourselves and nothing else. So that means that hospitals and medicine and things like that should not exist. Nothing in ever matters so we might as well die and not exist since nothing we ever do as humans will accomplish a single thing. So why bother? God does not exist. Heaven does not exist. Spirits don't exist. The only thing that exists is just us in a dark, empty void with a bunch of gases that we call the universe. That's it. So we should need to live a long, happy life since we will just die and soon be forgotten and wither away. Life comes from nothing, death means we become nothing, therefore life itself means absolutely nothing. I hate atheism.

So you see no value in life unless we never die? I feel sorry for you, then.

Me, I get great joy out of life. I love to learn. I love to teach. I love to share experiences with my wife and others. THOSE are core of the 'meaning of life' to me. It isn't 'just' about survival. It is about living life to the fullest, experiencing and learning and sharing.

An analogy I often use: the light from a candle has value and spreads warmth even though the candle will eventually go out. It doesn't have to be eternal to have meaning. It doesn't matter that it is forgotten. It still has value because it spreads warmth and light.

One of the things I see as simply realism is the acknowledgement that the vast majority of the universe is hostile to life. We are small and insignificant and it seems like the ultimate in hubris to think we 'matter' at all to the universe at large. Whatever value we have is what we make of ourselves.

But I can go further. What value does life have if it is eternal? Won't it cease to be of value after, say, a few million years? Or a billion? Or a trillion? And don't forget, a trillion years is only a speck in eternity. If anything, eternal life seems of less value than a well-lived finite life.But maybe that is just me.
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Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Rhondazvous - January 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Jackalope - January 4, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 5, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Mr.Obvious - January 5, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: Life is nothing - by polymath257 - January 5, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Mr.Obvious - January 4, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Aoi Magi - January 4, 2018 at 6:38 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by drfuzzy - January 4, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Minimalist - January 4, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Rhondazvous - January 4, 2018 at 7:17 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by brewer - January 4, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Sal - January 4, 2018 at 7:27 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Minimalist - January 4, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Astreja - January 4, 2018 at 10:13 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by polymath257 - January 4, 2018 at 10:51 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Astreja - January 4, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 4, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Fireball - January 5, 2018 at 1:17 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Nay_Sayer - January 5, 2018 at 12:11 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Little Rik - January 5, 2018 at 8:10 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Astreja - January 5, 2018 at 9:56 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Mister Agenda - January 5, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Whateverist - January 5, 2018 at 11:54 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 5, 2018 at 12:03 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Whateverist - January 5, 2018 at 12:12 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by notimportant1234 - January 5, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 5, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Whateverist - January 5, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by downbeatplumb - January 5, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Brian37 - January 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 6, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by vulcanlogician - January 6, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Astreja - January 7, 2018 at 12:48 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 7, 2018 at 7:09 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Ravenshire - January 7, 2018 at 2:37 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Thumpalumpacus - January 7, 2018 at 9:41 am
RE: Life is nothing - by LastPoet - January 7, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mister Agenda - January 8, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by drfuzzy - January 9, 2018 at 2:44 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Simon Moon - January 9, 2018 at 3:03 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by vulcanlogician - January 5, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Minimalist - January 5, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Ravenshire - January 5, 2018 at 3:55 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Kernel Sohcahtoa - January 5, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by purplepurpose - January 6, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Little Rik - January 6, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: Life is nothing - by LastPoet - January 6, 2018 at 8:24 am
RE: Life is nothing - by JackRussell - January 6, 2018 at 7:16 am
RE: Life is nothing - by downbeatplumb - January 6, 2018 at 8:30 am
RE: Life is nothing - by purplepurpose - January 6, 2018 at 8:37 am
RE: Life is nothing - by downbeatplumb - January 6, 2018 at 8:44 am
RE: Life is nothing - by purplepurpose - January 6, 2018 at 8:56 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Antares - January 6, 2018 at 8:57 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Grandizer - January 7, 2018 at 7:25 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Longhorn - January 7, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Brian37 - January 7, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 7, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Life is nothing - by The Valkyrie - January 10, 2018 at 3:51 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by uncool - January 12, 2018 at 12:08 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by uncool - January 12, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Conspiracy_of_reason - January 14, 2018 at 12:23 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Martian Mermaid - January 17, 2018 at 11:40 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Cod - January 18, 2018 at 5:02 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Iroscato - January 18, 2018 at 6:34 am

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