(January 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:How exactly can you feel love if you don't even have a soul?(January 4, 2018 at 5:10 pm)Mikeykitty123 Wrote: If we are just created by chance and nothing else, then what's the point of living if in the end, we are just gonna die and be forgotten? If we are nothing but a bunch of cells and sperms that had evolved over time, then why must we care and love one another? And no, saying that we need others to survive is not an valid answer. I don't care about surviving. If life's is just about surviving, then that means we should only care about ourselves and nothing else. So that means that hospitals and medicine and things like that should not exist. Nothing in ever matters so we might as well die and not exist since nothing we ever do as humans will accomplish a single thing. So why bother? God does not exist. Heaven does not exist. Spirits don't exist. The only thing that exists is just us in a dark, empty void with a bunch of gases that we call the universe. That's it. So we should need to live a long, happy life since we will just die and soon be forgotten and wither away. Life comes from nothing, death means we become nothing, therefore life itself means absolutely nothing. I hate atheism.
^^^^^ This bullshit is pessimistic. Not us.
Just because the ride ends DOES NOT mean we are fatalistic, it just means the ride ends.
You go to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go. You go to a music concert knowing it plays a last song, but you still go. You go to a sporting event knowing one team will win, and one team will loose, but you still go. You read a good book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it. You get a pet dog or cat, they live 7 or 12 years, they die, you mourn but even then,you might get another pet after that and be happy with the new one.
What is the use? BECAUSE I don't want to die and I still enjoy my life. I still have ups and downs, I still feel love, I still value family and friends. I just lost my late mother last March. She printed out a saying for me on a ribbon of paper I had on the visor for my van for a long time, "Don't cry because it is over, smile because it happened.'
Atheists feel the same things you do, the only difference is we don't assign the good or bad in life to sky heros vs ground trolls.
THERE MOST CERTAINLY is a reason to live for atheists. Curiosity, love, family, friends, education. You don't get scared thinking about what your non existence was like 4 billion years ago, so why do you think your non existence 5 billion years from now will feel any difference?
I would not want to live forever in any case, especially if it meant kissing one beings ass for eternity. If I wanted that I'd move to North Korea because Kim Jong Un is worshiped like a God there.
Atheist are NOT pessimistic one bit. We accept this is it, so to us, that one shot makes it far more valuable. It does not make us suicidal, it does not mean we value lawlessness or dictators. Accepting the ride ends only means we accept the ride ends. What we do between is what matters to us.
In the scope of a 13.8 billion year old universe no, humans don't mean anything. But WE do mean something now, while we are alive.
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Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Rhondazvous - January 4, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Huggy Bear - January 10, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Jackalope - January 4, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Thumpalumpacus - January 4, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2018 at 6:15 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 4, 2018 at 6:30 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2018 at 6:34 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2018 at 7:03 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 5, 2018 at 10:11 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Mr.Obvious - January 5, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: Life is nothing - by polymath257 - January 5, 2018 at 11:59 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Mr.Obvious - January 4, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2018 at 6:28 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2018 at 6:34 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by Minimalist - January 4, 2018 at 7:14 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by Minimalist - January 4, 2018 at 7:28 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by polymath257 - January 4, 2018 at 10:51 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Astreja - January 4, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 4, 2018 at 11:59 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by downbeatplumb - January 5, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Brian37 - January 5, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by Mikeykitty123 - January 6, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Life is nothing - by vulcanlogician - January 6, 2018 at 11:57 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2018 at 12:16 pm
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RE: Life is nothing - by Little Rik - January 6, 2018 at 8:17 am
RE: Life is nothing - by LastPoet - January 6, 2018 at 8:24 am
RE: Life is nothing - by JackRussell - January 6, 2018 at 7:16 am
RE: Life is nothing - by downbeatplumb - January 6, 2018 at 8:30 am
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RE: Life is nothing - by Grandizer - January 7, 2018 at 7:25 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Longhorn - January 7, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Brian37 - January 7, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Life is nothing - by Cyberman - January 7, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: Life is nothing - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: Life is nothing - by KevinM1 - January 7, 2018 at 11:50 am
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