Verse 42:23 and how to interpret it, disciplines of interpreting Quran.

[Brian37]

I initiated into a Sufi Order when I was in my 20"s. Then I read the Koran. I had no choice but to leave and call this ridiculous.

The problem is in using sources other than the Quran.
Sufism is not different than all Islamic sects using other sources.

Using the Quran alone as a source of extracting sentences results in a very different mentality, and a very different "Islam" than what we see today from Sunna, Shia and other sects like Sufies.

I support my choice with the historical atrocities practiced by Sunni and Shiite Muslims; even Suffies. If you follow what these sects are built upon; you will find that they are not following the Quran: you're following a mutant mixture of Quran and Hadith. Any logical idea will clash with the bounds of this mixture; and any ridiculous  thought can find a warm room to grow in with the support of Hadith and sects' books.

I will accept that between the two of you you are the "good cop" Muslim, and while MK is not a member of ISIS his bent is more "bad cop".

BUT,  both of you are at the same time NOT getting it.

You are BOTH arguing the writings of antiquity just like Baptists and Catholics whom are both Christian. 

I am the outsider looking at both of you saying, "THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW".