(August 24, 2011 at 5:04 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Actually it is not a prove for just any god, the God who created the world the world we live and can be intelligible would necessarily have to possess the same characteristics as Yahweh, and Yahweh by a different name would still be the God of the Bible.
But what if said god, that created the universe, never sent his son to die on a cross? This is a characteristic that wholly distinguishes Yaweh from the others. This hypothetical deity would most certainly not be Yaweh by another name.
(August 24, 2011 at 5:04 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: When you assume the existence of things you cannot account for in your worldview you violate the principle of sufficient reason which renders your actions irrational. So if you want to behave rationally you have to account for the existence of the preconditions of knowledgegod that punishes people for their thoughts is wholly inconsistent with the nature of an enlightened being.
Not sure why you brought up the principle of sufficient reasoning, and I am confused as to why you think not knowing the origins of knowledge makes my actions irrational.
(August 24, 2011 at 5:04 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Well as I pointed out above, in order to preserve your rationality you are obligated to account for those things. You should at the very least account for how logic and morality can even exist in a world not created and governed by God before you try and use them to argue against God’s existence.
But you're completely missing what I said. I never said I would use the existence of knowledge as arguments against god. I said I'm agnostic on a deist god, but I do not believe in Yaweh because of his contradictory nature, among other things.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
