(January 19, 2018 at 4:40 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Sure, but "the others guys are shitty too" -assuming it were an absolutely true and meaningful comparison, isn't exactly a qualifying remark on why religion..as a tool..presents a specific danger compared to disorganized shitty people. Ultimately, the reasons that we might want to eliminate "religion" are often very concrete, but there's simply no process of doing so that wouldn't be as bad or worse than whatever it was we were trying to address in doing so.
Ok so if it's just a comparison between people who have been brought together with mainly religious motivation to commit organized acts of violence then I'd agree that would be more dangerous than a group of disorganized people, purely because they're more organized and efficient.
The bottom line of my reasoning for wanting to eliminate religion is because I think it's a fictional waste of time. But it doesn't have anything to do with it being used as a tool to organize military groups that I think have an unreasonable goal. I think there would be a comparable situation if there were no religion and it was purely secular military groups with unreasonable goals.
In relation to the main topic is that I'd be surprised if you (Pool) thought for a second that a significant amount of people here want to make religion illegal. I can think of maybe one atheist on here that would have that opinion.
My opinion about religion being made illegal is pretty much as everyone else has said, it would make a shit situation shitter. It's comparable to prohibition. I think a large portion of people have religious tendencies hardwired into them the same way a lot of people have addictive tendencies hardwired into them.
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