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The problem with Ramadan
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RE: The problem with Ramadan
(January 27, 2018 at 2:11 pm)SaStrike Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 1:51 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: An all knowing all powerful God. It's actually two errors, one being the poles thing and the other being that the calender moves and isn't fixed. So sometimes Ramadan is in the summer and sometimes not. Give me a break. An all knowing God would never make such a human mistake.

The calender is fixed, it follows the lunar calender, not solar.

Yeah, but a lunar calender is stupid, it's not fixed. I mean it's not fixed to the seasons or daylight changes.

(January 27, 2018 at 2:50 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 2:10 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: And what they say doesn't matter at the end.
This is my last post before 2 years so I won't follow up on it.
When you want to prove a statement, you should 
1) Think about the opposite of that statement, and look for evidence for it.
2) Think about the negation of that statement, and look for evidences for it.
3) And then think with those two in mind, why your statement is correct.
If you can't prove by contradiction, it probably means it's very subjective your evidence to the statement.
The opposite would be:
1) An all knowing God would definitely make fasting for wise reasons despite people in some regions have mostly the sun or no night while not explaining what to do in those regions explicitly.
The negation would be:
2) An all knowing God would have no problem with making fasting despite people in some regions have mostly the sun or no nights while not explaining what to do in those regions explicitly.
I can find a lot of evidence for both 1 and 2 in Quran and the paradigm I work with. Explicitly, Quran has not even explained the form of Salah in detail, but implicitly it has. So if you want to argue it should explain everything explicitly, you might as well say "If Quran is true, it would explicitly explain the details of Salah."
And once you begin to see how Quran has implicitly explained everything in the religion with the help of it's designated chosen leaders and family, you will be well on your journey holding on to God's rope.
And yes scholars can say what they want, and it doesn't become a solution in the religion simply because they made their own solution.
Rituals are meant with a meaning with a paradigm. And most Muslims their rituals are meaningless and it only furthers them from God.
Fasting is mentioned in one Surah only where two Prophets are mentioned only once through out Quran as well and never mentioned again, one with a name, and the other not.  Think about where it's placed and what has to do with the message particular in this Surah that is found in other Surahs but specifically one is in this Surah detail.
I could spell it all out for you, but it would lead to Atlas coming up and getting upset, and you might think I am making it all up, so it's up to you see and understand.
Start to reflect not for the sake of only finding faults but finding solutions.

I just cant bring myself to read your posts anymore. 
They are just so boring.

Please come back when you get more sane and succinct.

I like mysticknight. I agree that he's not that clear always, but so what? Lots of people on here contribute less and make me think less, and are more boring. I hope he stays.

I also think English isn't his first language? So I give him a break. Id take 10 mysticknights over one atlas. Hes boring for real. I pretty much know exactly his opinion everytime.
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The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 26, 2018 at 7:42 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by vorlon13 - January 26, 2018 at 8:02 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 26, 2018 at 11:07 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by vorlon13 - January 26, 2018 at 11:11 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Succubus - January 26, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 27, 2018 at 1:23 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 27, 2018 at 2:11 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 2:10 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by paulpablo - January 27, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by MysticKnight - January 27, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by downbeatplumb - January 27, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 27, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Fireball - January 27, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 28, 2018 at 3:39 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by CapnAwesome - January 28, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 29, 2018 at 1:19 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by downbeatplumb - January 28, 2018 at 5:40 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Minimalist - January 27, 2018 at 9:24 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 27, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Minimalist - January 29, 2018 at 4:16 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Nay_Sayer - January 27, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 5:17 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by WinterHold - January 28, 2018 at 5:56 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by SaStrike - January 28, 2018 at 6:29 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Brian37 - January 28, 2018 at 6:42 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by The Grand Nudger - January 29, 2018 at 5:36 am
RE: The problem with Ramadan - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 29, 2018 at 12:46 pm

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