(February 23, 2018 at 8:48 am)SteveII Wrote:(February 21, 2018 at 9:24 am)polymath257 Wrote: You are assuming that if time is infinite, there is an infinite gap between two events. That is false. There is no 'infinite wait' because the process is always ongoing with an infinite amount *already* having happened at any point. If you pick any point in the sequences, the time to now is finite.
I assume and implied no such 'infinite gaps'. I said: "We could not have gotten to our current universe without an infinite amounts of universes already being created. We would still be waiting for an infinite amount of universe to be sparked before ours could be sparked--which will never happen, because there still needs to be an infinite more that need to come first. Why can't you address this!? You keep asserting that how it is."
Ironically, you just asserted that is it possible again without addressing the point: how do we get an infinite number of universes sparked/spawned/whatever before ours? There would still need to be an infinite more that need to happen first. You seem to think that if math can use infinities in equations, then this is not a logical problem--it is! A very big one.
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No, that is NOT the reasoning. The reasoning is that it works mathematically, so *there is no contradiction*. You are the one claiming a contradiction, but have yet to actually show one.
You keep claiming there has to be some sort of 'infinite wait' in the case of an infinite regress, but that is simply false: there is still only a finite amount of time between any two events.
Again, I proposed no infinite wait. Only the logic that an infinite number of universes still must come before ours can occur (because any multiverse model is one of a series of contingent universes). I am not claiming a contradiction, I am claiming it is metaphysically impossible. Overcome this objection or you have lost the argument.
What is the world does it mean to be a metaphysical impossibility except that there is an internal contradiction? Where is the impossibility of having infinitely many precursors? YOu have pointed to none or given a reason to think such is impossible.
And yes, you made a claim that an infinite wait would be required when you said that we would still be waiting for an infinite number of universes to spark. No, we would NOT be waiting. An infinite number *would already have happened*, so we only have to wait a finite number from any point to get to the present. You seem to not grasp the idea of an infinite regress: *there is no start*, so at any point you set down, an infinite number of events have *already& happened.
So, where, precisely, is the impossibility? What is the argument that this cannot be the case? Other than a silly 'we wouldn't be here', which shows a deep misunderstanding, you have given nothing.