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Infinity
#1
Infinity
In the universe as we know it the following is true.
1.       Infinite time is time without end and as such can never be reached.
2.       Infinite distance can never be reached. Speed has a maximum which is the speed of light as such an infinite distance cannot be reached for the following reason.
Consider sending out a beam of light. The light will never reach infinity as it would need infinite time. An infinite time can never pass as its time without end.
3.        Nothing can be infinitely old. Consider making some object. Any time in the future it will always have a finite age as infinite time can never pass. Applying this to the past means that everything that exist is not infinity old or did not always exist.
4.       The truth of 3 has been demonstrated by the big bang which was the event that gave birth to the universe.
5.       The cause of the event that gave rise to the universe, if it had a property of infinity the same as the infinity in this universe then it in turn would be of a finite age and would need a creating event.
6.       Thus anything with a property of infinity the same as the infinity of this universe could not be the ultimate cause of this universe or any universe like it.
7.       Thus the ultimate cause of everything that exist has an infinity that is different or nothing like the infinity of this universe.
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#2
RE: Infinity
3. Nothing can be infinitely old.

How does that work out for Yawheh?
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#3
RE: Infinity
It's too early, dawg. It's too. Freakin'. Early.
"For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." - Carl Sagan
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#4
RE: Infinity
Please square this: Nothing can be infinitely old

With this: Thus the ultimate cause of everything that exist has an infinity

Special plead much?

Boru
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#5
RE: Infinity
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#6
RE: Infinity
He's saying God's infinity is not a time-based infinity, nor a spatial one, but a magi-special godly one.
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#7
RE: Infinity
Oh right. So he makes up a load of rules, then throws them out the window and says "god is special".

Why should I care about any of this, again?
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#8
RE: Infinity
Guy is Catholic. He is a victim.

From catholic site:

The doctrine of hell is so frightening that numerous heretical sects end up denying the reality of an eternal hell. The Unitarian-Universalists, the Seventh-day Adventists, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Christadelphians, the Christian Scientists, the Religious Scientists, the New Agers, and the Mormons—all have rejected or modified the doctrine of hell so radically that it is no longer a serious threat. In recent decades, this decay has even invaded mainstream Evangelicalism, and a number of major Evangelical figures have advocated the view that there is no eternal hell—the wicked will simply be annihilated.
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#9
RE: Infinity
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I don't believe you. Get over it.
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#10
RE: Infinity
(September 11, 2016 at 12:57 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Guy is Catholic. He is a victim.

From catholic site:

The doctrine of hell is so frightening that numerous heretical sects end up denying the reality of an eternal hell. The Unitarian-Universalists, the Seventh-day Adventists, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Christadelphians, the Christian Scientists, the Religious Scientists, the New Agers, and the Mormons—all have rejected or modified the doctrine of hell so radically that it is no longer a serious threat. In recent decades, this decay has even invaded mainstream Evangelicalism, and a number of major Evangelical figures have advocated the view that there is no eternal hell—the wicked will simply be annihilated.
"Also, it makes God look like a major asshole that no rational person would worship even if He was standing in front of them." 

Forgot that part,  you did.  Tongue
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