RE: Future History?
May 14, 2009 at 7:35 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2009 at 7:47 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(May 14, 2009 at 11:51 am)g-mark Wrote: An eye for an eye. What ever happens too us is our own fault.
I didn't say that or mean to imply it.
My position is the rejection of absolute moral imperatives and of a transcendant moral authority.
My position is that all morality is either a social construct based on pragmatism and self interest or a biological urge (EG protecting the young,cooperating with and helping other members your group.) Morality always has a survival value,if only as an agent of group inclusion.
Human beings may on some occasions act in ways which do not APPEAR to be self interested,but we are not consistently altruistic as a species.
"Eye for an eye (revenge) is a common human position.Strangely,this rule is earlier than Jewish law,coming from Hammurabi,in Babylon (1760BCE) and is as much about compensation as revenge. A person can still escape the death penalty for murder in some parts of the Middle East by paying blood money*
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From the code of Hammurabi (wiki)
Quote:Examples
These are seven (7) example laws, in their entirety, of the Code of Hammurabi, translated into English:
1. If any one ensnares another, putting a ban upon him, but he can not prove it, then he that ensnared him shall be put to death.
2. If any one brings an accusation against a man, and the accused goes to the river and leaps into the river, if he sinks in the river his accuser shall take possession of his house. But if the river proves that the accused is not guilty, and he escapes unhurt, then he who had brought the accusation shall be put to death, while he who leaped into the river shall take possession of the house that had belonged to his accuser.
3. If any one brings an accusation of any crime before the elders, and does not prove what he has charged, he shall, if a capital offense is charged, be put to death.
4. If a Builder build a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built fall in and kill its owner, then that builder shall be put to death.
5. If a man give his child to a nurse and the child die in her hands, but the nurse unbeknown to the father and mother nurse another child, then they shall convict her of having nursed another child without the knowledge of the father and mother and her breasts shall be cut off.
6. If any one steals the minor son of another, he shall be put to death.
7. If a man takes a woman to wife, but have no intercourse with her, this woman is no wife to him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammurabi_Code
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Blood Money (wiki)
Quote:Blood money is money or some sort of compensation paid by an offender (usually a murderer) or his family group to the family or kin group of the victim.[1]
Quote:Other uses
Blood money is, colloquially, the reward for bringing a criminal to justice.[2] A common meaning in other contexts is the money-penalty paid by a murderer to the kinsfolk of the victim. These fines completely protect the offender (or the kinsfolk thereof) from the vengeance of the injured family. The system was common among the Scandinavian and Teutonic peoples previous to the introduction of Christianity, and a scale of payments, graduated according to the heinousness of the crime, was fixed by laws, which further settled who could exact the blood-money, and who were entitled to share it.[2] Homicide was not the only crime thus expiable: blood-money could be exacted for all crimes of violence. Some acts, such as killing someone in a church or while asleep, or within the precincts of the royal palace, were "bot-less"; and the death penalty was inflicted.[2] Such a criminal was outlawed, and could be killed on sight.[2]