Actual Infinity in Reality?

[GrandizerII]

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That, or you still haven't grasped (or maybe you don't want to grasp) the exact argument we're making. We're not arguing that infinity is logically possible, therefore it is. We're arguing that you haven't provided any good reductio ad absurdum arguments to disprove the logic of actual infinity. You've failed with all the analogies and paradoxes you've posted about thus far.

And even if it was a question-begging argument, which it isn't, it would still be a valid argument anyway. Circular yes, invalid no.

And about the B-theory of time, William Lane Craig himself said the KCA is predicated on the A-theory of time and that if the B-theory of time is true, then the argument is useless. Well, we know which theory of time is backed by the science, and it's not the A-theory of time.

This is getting silly--try to keep up. 

First, there is no "logic of actual infinity" for me to assail. There is no non-question-begging argument for it.

Ok, but you can still use a certain type of argument to disprove it. You get that, right? And in fact, that's what you have been trying to do anyway ... but you keep failing.

Second, you can't answer Hilbert's Hotel without invoking set theory. I have not yet been supplied a reason why we have to invoke a mathematical assumption used only in mathematics to discuss rooms and guests. We wouldn't if there were 100, 1000 or even 10^10 rooms/guests. Poly has tried that tack that set theory is necessary for basic math operations. This is utterly ridiculous and I will point that out shortly.

Every grouping of stuff that can be mathematically represented as a set.

What makes you think I am arguing KCA? Stop--I am not going to respond because that is not the topic here.

We're not dumb, Steve. The KCA requires that an actual infinity of time moments be logically impossible. We all know why you made this thread. The problem is that, as WLC rightly confessed, the argument from beginning to end depends on the A-theory of time. With the B-theory of time, the KCA is easily debunked.

I see you have dropped your infinite causes is possible because there are no causes argument--good for you! It was a lousy argument.

I didn't drop it. You just didn't respond to the argument last time I referred to it. Plus, you seem to have forgotten Sean Carroll's causality is derived, not fundamental, quote. You do know that's what physicists believe, right?

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What do you mean?

Don't you agree that 0.999999... actually is equal to 1? And not just potentially?

Lol I suck at maths and even I know that 0.99999999... = 1 because it makes logical fucking sense.

Don't worry, they're worse from what I'm seeing.