Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

[Jenny A]

Huggy, you have failed to produce a satisfying argument that disproves Odin. But that's not your fault. It can't be done. That's the whole point of this thread.

The existence of Odin is a non-falsifiable hypothesis--just like "the Jesus hypothesis." Because both of these hypotheses are non-falsifiable, no amount of evidence can demonstrate that they do or do not exist.

You can't disprove Odin. Why not just give this one to the heathens?

Falsification is a scientific principle and does not apply here. What you mean is that no one can prove a negative. I agree. However that does not mean that one cannot have positive knowledge that supports the non-existence of Odin (or God for that matter).

For example, we can have reasonable certainty that the combination of Fire and Ice made drips that became giants and then they had children and one of them was Odin probably did not happen. So, we can offer metaphysical and historical defeaters to any combination of claims that Odin existed--making the cumulative case for his existence highly unlikely.

However, the same cannot be said for God. There are really no good arguments against the existence of God. The best one is the PoE--but even that has satisfactory philosophical counter-arguments. Hiddeness? Again, that has answers. You might not find them compelling, but the point is there is not any good positive arguments against the existence of God.

The standard here is to prove Odin does not exist, not just to demonstrate that he is highly unlikely.

So, you think fire and ice can't make a giant? You are disregarding the fact that it didn't happen in this world. It happened in Niflheim. Who knows what biological laws apply in Niflheim? The fire came from the everlasting growing fires of yet another world, Muspell. That's no ordinary ice or fire.

Then again, perhaps his creation story is wrong or merely allegorical. He's still possible, just not very possible. Rather like a God who separated the waters front the waters with a firmament we call the sky. Or added the sun and moon after creating day and night. Or made people our of dust. If the Hebrews had known more about biology they'd have chosen water. There's more water to us than use about anything else. ----Hey, ice is frozen water, what do you know?