Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

[vulcanlogician]

But let's face it... terms like "magic book" come about because people on the other side say things like "Holy and Inerrant Word of God" and refer to the Bible as a source of absolute truth.

If you're going to condemn atheists for using the "magic book" pejorative, you need to condemn theists for referring to it as "more than a book," as something beyond reproach as something that is a mortal sin to even doubt.

'Holy' literally means set apart in the sense that it some things are distinctly different in a profound way. The Declaration of Independence is "more than a political document". It is a piece of history and the embodiment of the founding principles of liberal democracy. At one time I had a letter written to me personally from the office of Senator Obama and signed by him. It may have been worth some money today, but no one would consider it with the same reverence as the D of I. Some things are sacred.

The Bible documents the ways by which God has revealed Himself through history, serves as a means through which He can communicate to believers, and has been one of the most important foundations on which Western civilization was built. So yes, it is more than just a book but no one thinks it is a 'magic' book and only a douche would call it that.

Wow. So much to refute in your statements. The "Declaration of Independence" may have significance beyond its particular epoch, but this is no way makes its contents any more or less valid than they are. If anyone tries to assert that the Declaration is somehow the master document which is the end-all-be-all of all political declarations, expect opponents of this assertion to start calling it "magic parchment."

Anyway, that settles it, I'm posting a thread about Keneinan's article in the next few days. If you're up to defending her statements, I hope to see you there.