RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 8, 2018 at 10:49 am
(March 8, 2018 at 10:21 am)SteveII Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Mathilda Wrote: It only seems nonsense to you because you do not understand the nature of intelligence. How can your god exist or think without being constrained by the laws of Thermodynamics? After all, for your god to be relevant he has to be able to interact with this world and therefore work within the same laws.
You are confusing cause and effect. While the effect will be seen in accordance with the laws of nature, that in no way means that the cause has to be. Thinking that the immaterial, omnipotent creator of the universe consists of or is bound by physical laws is really really messed illogical thinking.
Every example we have of natural intelligence is a self-organising system that functions because of the laws of thermodynamics. Every example we have of natural intelligence is embodied in a physical environment which can be sensed and acted within. We have good reason to believe that every form of natural intelligence can ultimately be explained in terms of thermodynamics.
If you want to assert that natural intelligence exists in any other form (i.e. not AI) then give an example, evidence and at the very least a hypothesis on how it might function.
So if your god is intelligent (i.e. a being) then all the evidence is that it must also be subject to the laws of thermodynamics and therefore not eternal.
Give me one single example of intelligence that is not subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
