RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 8, 2018 at 7:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 8, 2018 at 7:48 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
HERESY! HE'S WELSH!
You gotta know what he's describing to know what he's trying to prove.
He's trying to prove some imaginary dude that is invisible and intangible and made the universe, ya got it? But his evidence can't be invisible or intangible
Hmm. Almost sounds as if the whole thing is fucking ridiculous eh?
3 doesn't follow. You'd have to add that God is the creator of the universe by definition as well. Otherwise God is just some immaterial being that exists, and there's no reason to believe he's required for the universe.
(March 8, 2018 at 6:12 pm)Succubus Wrote:(March 8, 2018 at 5:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: ...God, by definition, is supernatural.
Before you describe god's characteristics it would be prudent to first prove he exists.
You gotta know what he's describing to know what he's trying to prove.
He's trying to prove some imaginary dude that is invisible and intangible and made the universe, ya got it? But his evidence can't be invisible or intangible
Hmm. Almost sounds as if the whole thing is fucking ridiculous eh?
(March 8, 2018 at 6:44 pm)Succubus Wrote: 1. If God exists, he is immaterial (be definition)
2. The universe is material (by definition)
3. If God exists, then God is the best explanation of the universe (from Occam's razor, PSR)
3 doesn't follow. You'd have to add that God is the creator of the universe by definition as well. Otherwise God is just some immaterial being that exists, and there's no reason to believe he's required for the universe.
