RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 9, 2018 at 3:20 pm
(March 9, 2018 at 2:29 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:Indeed putting something infinitely more mysterious as an explanation is dumb . And no atheists simply insisting god is simple is just silly.(March 8, 2018 at 6:25 pm)SteveII Wrote: Simple.
1. If God exists, he is immaterial (be definition)
2. The universe is material (by definition)
3. If God exists, then God is the best explanation of the universe (from Occam's razor, PSR)
4. If God exists, an immaterial God created a material universe (from 1-3)
5. Creation is causation (be definition)
6. Therefore, if God exists, the immaterial has causation over the material. (from 4-5)
1: So god is made from nothing. Do you know what else is made from nothing? all non-existent things.
3: God is not a good explanation for the universe. It would pose more questions than it answers.
4: I see you don't like details, how did an immaterial being (whatever that is) create the universe?
6: none of what you put leads to that conclusion.
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