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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 9, 2018 at 8:55 am)Mathilda Wrote:
(March 8, 2018 at 5:27 pm)SteveII Wrote: Supernatural intelligence. 

By definition, it is not subject to natural laws. 

su·per·nat·u·ral
ˌso͞opərˈnaCH(ə)rəl/
adjective

  1. 1.
    (of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
God, by definition, is supernatural.

You are assuming that your god exists. There is no evidence to warrant that assumption being made.

Provide one example of something existing that is also supernatural.


Wait a minute. All this started when you thought you had a clever argument that God was not thermodynamically possible. That reasoning was silly. Now to salvage your part of the discussion, you take the typical atheist tack of "well...you don't have any evidence of God anyway...so there." If you want to comment about properties of God, you have already granted for the purpose of the discussion that he exists. Falling back to this is disingenuous at best. 

Quote:And if you are defining supernatural as beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature then that means quantum mechanics is supernatural, also dark matter, dark energy, dark flow etc.

What are you talking about? Supernatural is not a state of knowledge. It is a category of existence. 

Quote:But if you define supernatural and as not existing in nature, then you have defined it as something that does not exist. You are effectively admitting that your god is a fantasy and a figment of your imagination.
That does not make any sense whatsoever. Supernatural is a category of existence. I am "effectively admitting" that God does not exist in the natural category.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic - by SteveII - March 10, 2018 at 8:13 am

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