RE: Easter, Bloody Easter!
March 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 10, 2018 at 4:46 pm by Ravenshire.)
(March 10, 2018 at 3:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 2:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He didnt stop it from happening, as He could have, since He is God. That doesn't mean the people who did it weren't acting on free will and thus fully responsible for the evil deed. (It also doesn't mean that it's ok to kill other people after the fact who had nothing to do with it just because they are of the same religion as some of the people who did. This goes without saying.)
I don't see it as a story of sadism at all, and neither is that the intended Christian message of the story. The story is of self giving love, and dying for the sake of saving other people. You personally may take it as sadism, but that isn't the intended message being protrayed whatsoever.
Anyway, I'm glad you don't think we are sadistic. Thats good. I'm also glad I was able to clear up the misconception you had that Easter is the celebration of His death. Hopefully other things have been cleared up too.
Without modern culture and the contributions of non-Christian, speaking about "free will" and the "criminalizing" of murder would not even be present.
In other words; the Christian faith is a gore pack that served as moral code for the new generation of Romans, mainly the branch that prospered and lived in modern day Turkey; ancient day Constantinople.
The Christian version of "Jihad"; famously known with term "Crusade"; was all about exporting that gore pack to outside countries and communities, causing the infamous crusader campaigns.
You have to believe in a gory faith, and mix up that belief with harsh environmental factors -like the European cold or the Arabian heat- to produce the final solution: "a mad person ready to eat children and exterminate a whole continent off its people".
It's just a matter of thinking what they world would've looked like, if the illumination wave didn't shut down paganism through the favoring of atheistic thoughts and beliefs.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...-symbolism
Quote:All the fun things about Easter are pagan. Bunnies are a leftover from the pagan festival of Eostre, a great northern goddess whose symbol was a rabbit or hare. Exchange of eggs is an ancient custom, celebrated by many cultures. Hot cross buns are very ancient too. In the Old Testament we see the Israelites baking sweet buns for an idol, and religious leaders trying to put a stop to it. The early church clergy also tried to put a stop to sacred cakes being baked at Easter. In the end, in the face of defiant cake-baking pagan women, they gave up and blessed the cake instead.
Easter is quite a pagan ritual. I remember being lectured about that specific topic in the forum a year ago. But all I know, what Easter is a pagan celebration, taken by Christians who obviously couldn't lose the habit of celebrating the thing; then stamped with the "Jesus" stamp over it to make it a Christian property. Poor heathens lost a whole festival from their culture.
Which points me in thinking about the roots of the "Trinity", roots of "Jesus's resurrection"..
I think the real ancient loyal followers of Jesus peace be upon him; got all chewed by lions in the Arena.
The ones who were left were the traitors who snitched their brethren to the Romans.
And those traitors are the writers of today's bible.
So if the Easter is proved to be a pagan ritual, how many of Christian laws are in fact; pagan laws?
Oh, it's not just Easter they stole from the pagans, but if not every single "christian" holy day, then damned near. Even the day they worship is stolen from pagan beliefs (in order to make converting the poor unwashed pagans easier), though they'll argue a couple buy-bull verses that allegedly trump the commandment to keep the seventh day holy. Hell, most of their holy book is taken from earlier traditions. Why should it surprise anyone that they usurped holy days as well?
(March 10, 2018 at 4:05 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I've never had a Peeps.
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(March 10, 2018 at 4:27 pm)Cecelia Wrote:(emphasis is mine)(March 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: We value and remember the fact that He made the ultimate sacrifice and act of love, which is to lay down your life for another.
Did he really make a sacrifice though? I mean if he were god... then he'd just be returning to heaven. How is it a sacrifice. That's something I'll never understand. It wasn't even voluntary! He didn't CHOOSE to be crucified. The Romans chose for him.
What about it makes it a sacrifice?
The warm fuzzies they get when they think of his bad weekend as some sort of ultimate sacrifice.
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