Quick YEC Debunks

[Amarok]

This isn't even a dodge. 

Alpha, if God created the universe as you say he did, he's no better than Descartes' evil demon. To reason things as you have is two steps from accepting the flat earth. (You do accept the spherical earth model, right?) It's not just God stretching the light so we can see things. That answer doesn't work because, as RR pointed out here, that would mean that we are seeing stars die that never existed in the first place. Do you see how little sense that makes?

Look at it this way. One of us is right in this scenario. I think you should at least do some independent research here, if not enroll in an online astronomy course. There are plenty of people who reject the 6,000 year old model-- even Biblical inerrantists. So it doesn't even contradict the Bible to see the universe as older, at least according to many, many people. Plenty of people reject young earth creationism and are devout Christians.

I could sit here and give you information that proves my case all day, but I think you should take the time to learn the science yourself.

Indeed if you accept what Beta is proposing . God is more akin to Loki .