RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 14, 2018 at 1:21 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2018 at 1:26 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(March 14, 2018 at 8:35 am)SteveII Wrote: While some properties of God are unknowable, some are not. He has reveals a great deal about himself in both the OT and the NT. Here is a great list. There is also a ton of things we can infer from known characteristics (the result of a process of systematic theology).
You’re wandering a bit.
The claim is that god is the personal creator of the universe as we know it. If god is real, he is the best explanation for the universe’s existence.
When examining a possible explanation for a particular phenomenon (in this case, god as the cause of the universe), most rational people would think it important to know a few key specifics about this proposed explanation:
1. What is god made of?
2. By what mechanisms did he accomplish this?
3. How can we differentiate between god, and things that are not god?
4. What mechanisms underpin this timeless, changeless, spaceless state?
Your answers to this line of questioning so far have been, ‘category error,’ and ‘not knowable’.
That is some “explanation”, Steve. Further, I don’t understand how you can call the definition of god as, “not needing an explanation”, any kind of definition at all. God is what, then? I’ll-defined by definition? Why would any rational person accept a theory that is unexplainable by definition, as an explanation for real phenomena?
Quote:You continue to ignore the fact that I have a list of real life reasons to think the concept is true.
What you have is your belief that the Bible is true, and personal experience. If that’s enough for you, fine. But you must be able to see how this is not even close to enough for many of us here.
”God-did-it because the Bible says so”, as the explanation for existence is never going to be enough for me.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.