RE: Quick YEC Debunks
March 14, 2018 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 14, 2018 at 3:19 pm by vulcanlogician.)
Alpha, have you considered being a Christian who isn't a YEC? Here are a few reasons (off the top of my head):
1) The 6,000 year-old universe is not central to Christianity. This model is pushed by people who want to see their iteration of Christianity have power in America. Christians having power and influence is also not central to Christianity. Jesus spoke of a heavenly kingdom, remember? Even Peter didn't get it. (read Matthew 16:21-28). In one respect, it misses the point of Christianity to be involved in Christianity's worldly power and influence.
2) A literal interpretation of Genesis contradicts itself: the day by day ordering of creation is different in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Since the 6,000 year old model relies on a literal interpretation of the book, this model is wrong right out of the gate because a literal interpretation contradicts itself.
3) You could even take Genesis literally if you take into account what is written elsewhere in the Bible: Psalm 90 (written by Moses) says: "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by" (Psalm 90:4). Taking into account that one of God's days is an indeterminate amount of time, maybe Genesis spoke of things in terms of God's days. Also, some suggest that there is an indeterminate amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and the rest of the days of creation (perhaps 13 billion years?).
4) Christians often say that the essential part of Christianity is accepting Christ as one's savior. Then once you have done that, I read that Jesus gives a bunch of commandments about being a righteous person (ie treating others, including the outcast and downtrodden, with respect and dignity, enduring hardships with faith, not judging others, and forgiving them their tresspasses. It doesn't say anything about resisting discoveries in science. That seems to be something Christians do when they are interested in worldly power. Again, isn't it a heavenly kingdom? It's sad to see all of Christ's teachings about righteousness and forbearance (my favorite part) swept under the rug in favor of "I'm a Christian. I'm right about everything. Put me in charge!"
I want to reiterate. Being a YEC has nothing to do with being a Christian. Why don't you consider looking in to the science yourself? A bunch of atheists could sit here and tell you you're wrong, and you would feel like promoting YEC-ism is defending Christianity. But it's not. Look into the science yourself, man. Please.
By the way, your argument that you are doing okay in your life, therefore there is no reason to change your views is invalid. If a flat earther is living a good, comfortable life, does that mean the earth is flat? No. You could be wrong no matter how well or terribly your life is going. Get real.
1) The 6,000 year-old universe is not central to Christianity. This model is pushed by people who want to see their iteration of Christianity have power in America. Christians having power and influence is also not central to Christianity. Jesus spoke of a heavenly kingdom, remember? Even Peter didn't get it. (read Matthew 16:21-28). In one respect, it misses the point of Christianity to be involved in Christianity's worldly power and influence.
2) A literal interpretation of Genesis contradicts itself: the day by day ordering of creation is different in Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Since the 6,000 year old model relies on a literal interpretation of the book, this model is wrong right out of the gate because a literal interpretation contradicts itself.
3) You could even take Genesis literally if you take into account what is written elsewhere in the Bible: Psalm 90 (written by Moses) says: "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by" (Psalm 90:4). Taking into account that one of God's days is an indeterminate amount of time, maybe Genesis spoke of things in terms of God's days. Also, some suggest that there is an indeterminate amount of time between Genesis 1:1 and the rest of the days of creation (perhaps 13 billion years?).
4) Christians often say that the essential part of Christianity is accepting Christ as one's savior. Then once you have done that, I read that Jesus gives a bunch of commandments about being a righteous person (ie treating others, including the outcast and downtrodden, with respect and dignity, enduring hardships with faith, not judging others, and forgiving them their tresspasses. It doesn't say anything about resisting discoveries in science. That seems to be something Christians do when they are interested in worldly power. Again, isn't it a heavenly kingdom? It's sad to see all of Christ's teachings about righteousness and forbearance (my favorite part) swept under the rug in favor of "I'm a Christian. I'm right about everything. Put me in charge!"
I want to reiterate. Being a YEC has nothing to do with being a Christian. Why don't you consider looking in to the science yourself? A bunch of atheists could sit here and tell you you're wrong, and you would feel like promoting YEC-ism is defending Christianity. But it's not. Look into the science yourself, man. Please.
By the way, your argument that you are doing okay in your life, therefore there is no reason to change your views is invalid. If a flat earther is living a good, comfortable life, does that mean the earth is flat? No. You could be wrong no matter how well or terribly your life is going. Get real.
