RE: Quick YEC Debunks
March 15, 2018 at 5:01 am
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2018 at 5:06 am by John V.)
(March 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Yeah, that was a bit too much. It's not like there is any kind of relation between religion and power. There isn't an evangelical voter bloc. Nobody is out there saying: "Don't change our marriage laws or God will take vengeance in the form of weather patterns." No congressman ever said, "There's no need to worry about global warming because God promised Noah he wouldn't flood the earth again." Nobody has ever been burned at the stake over a fairytale or anything. None of that is true, right? Because if it were true, that would be batshit crazy, right? Good thing none of that's true.
Are there YECs who want power? Probably. Are there YECs who don't care about it? Definitely. My church fits that group. To my knowledge Amish are generally YECs, and they want extremely little to do with political power. So, YEC doesn't seem to be causative regarding desire for power.
It's like saying we should be concerned about fasting during Ramadan because some Muslim groups want power and they fast during Ramadan. Well, yeah, but there are Muslims who fast during Ramadan and aren't after power, so that's a fail.
It's the correlation and causation thing. You screwed up, said something stupid, and now instead of admitting it and correcting it, you're trying to save face by moving the goalposts.
Quote:I see two extremes here.
Being so concerned that one is correct that one can't be happy otherwise, and (at the other extreme) not caring if one is correct, so long as one is happy. I endorse neither. I say, be happy first.
OK, I've got that.
Quote:Then, from the comfort of a happy and leisurely life, take a little time to examine your own views for correctness.
And I've done that. I've just reached a different conclusion than you.
(March 14, 2018 at 6:42 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Have a problem with you providing support for a literal reading by demonstrating how it can be read literally? It just isn't responsive to my question. Can you see that?
As I said - yes, and again, that's why I clarified my intent. Still don't get why that's not good enough for you.
