Quick YEC Debunks

[vulcanlogician]

YOUNG EARTH does not mean YOUNG UNIVERSE.

Too be clear I'm not a YEC, because no where in the Bible does it state that the earth is 6000 years old.

Okay, I see what you mean. I knew you weren't a YEC btw, so we're on the same page there. But my argument does in fact stand against most if not all YECs.

1. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
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9. And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. [the third day]
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16. God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

So, according to Genesis, God made the stars on the fourth day, after having made the Earth. I placed emphasis on the phrases that speak to this point. Literalists will say that the stars were created after the Earth. So, to them, young Earth also means young universe.

I wish that non-YECs would speak up to their Christian brothers and sisters when they insist on such illogic.

I mean, I speak up about anti-theism. I understand where anti-theists are coming from, but I also point out that religion serves a purpose in people's personal lives, a purpose that a purely logical assessment of the universe fails to provide. Along the same vein, I'd appreciate it if logical theists would point out that denial of science does nothing to glorify God (who is, presumably the inventor of science/natural laws). Some theists do this, I know. Just saying I wished it happened more often.

You must have reasons for not being a YEC. So obviously you are sitting on some kind of debunk, some reason that you embrace old earth creationism... So what is it?