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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
(March 16, 2018 at 9:17 am)SteveII Wrote: As I explained above, you are zeroing in on one aspect of causation that is obviously too restrictive when talking about thing that may have happened prior to the first moments of the universe. 

1. Everything that begins to exist has an efficient cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe has an efficient cause.

BTW, this is spelled out in the extensive writings on the KCA.

Oh look, another nebulous term that is not properly defined.

If it's not instantaneous then it doesn't matter if it's efficient or not.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic - by I_am_not_mafia - March 16, 2018 at 9:30 am

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