RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 16, 2018 at 1:49 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2018 at 1:51 pm by SteveII.)
(March 16, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Mathilda Wrote: It is always matter and the flow of energy through it changing the configuration of the matter.
Matter with no energy does nothing.
Energy with no matter does not retain any persistent shape.
The cause of Leo Tolstoy’s Anna Karenina or Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony was not only the matter that made up their brain but the firing of their neurons.
But also their environment and history.
There was never a single cause. It's simplistic theistic thinking to suggest otherwise.
All efficient causes. Of course something material can be an efficient cause!! It is not a material cause because it is made of material!!!!!!!!!
AND then there is the fact that the novel and the symphony are not material in any way. So, we have efficient causes having an effect that is not immaterial (not consisting of matter OR energy). Kind of blows up the whole "it's always matter and the flow of energy" argument.
