RE: Quick YEC Debunks
March 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm
(This post was last modified: March 16, 2018 at 2:35 pm by Whateverist.)
(March 16, 2018 at 2:38 am)robvalue Wrote:(March 15, 2018 at 11:18 am)Khemikal Wrote: "You do too care, you do too!"
Lolnope.
I can accept that you do, that sin weighs on your mind and you live in guilt....that your panties would be hopelessly wrinkled up if you were me in all ways but the status of your belief in pixies and spirit blemishes. Because you experience it, you imagine that others do as well..and I can understand why you would think that. My panties, however, are doing just fine..despite whatever yours would be doing in my shoes.
I can't understand what this whole, "you just want to sin" thing is supposed to mean. I suppose it's a total failure to be able to see our side. Or projection. What they really mean is, "I just want to sin". They want to do those things they see atheists do, but they can't. (Most likely they do them anyway but feel really guilty about them.)
It makes as much sense as me saying, "you just want to upset Darth Vader".
Like we're really going to waste one second worrying about their hypothetical but incoherent supernatural consequence in deciding how to live. Always surprising to learn how inherently irresistible they think vile acts must be that it should require extreme measures to overcome. Must be unpleasant to live with that mindset.
(March 16, 2018 at 9:22 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 16, 2018 at 8:09 am)Mathilda Wrote: Says the person who can't tell the difference between the evolution of a language and the evolution of religious belief.
I don't believe Frans De Waal is saying what you think he's saying...
Animals have no conception of right and wrong.
Primarily because they do not share our capacity for propositional thought. What that tells us is that propositional reflection on morality is secondary. Personally I find an obsession with right and wrong to be a waste of time beyond childrearing and development into young adulthood. Of course xtians are afraid of the mammal within.
(March 16, 2018 at 1:54 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 16, 2018 at 9:08 am)Wololo Wrote: I must say, though, that in thological terms YECs are on firmer grounds than non-YEC christians. Because if you're going to accept the bible as valid you've got to accept all of it.
Otherwise you quickly run into CLs muddled mess of "I like this bit therefore it is true, I don't like that bit therefore it is false".
I accept all of the Bible, but I’m not a YEC
Hallelujah! I always prefer to share society with better theists. If you can't make it all the way to secular, at least work for a theism which maximizes your humanity.