RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 16, 2018 at 5:01 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:SteveII Wrote:Fun Fact: A novel and symphony are abstract objects. They are not equivalent to the paper they are written on. If you destroy a book, you do not destroy the story. If you destroy a sheet of music, you do not destroy the symphony. It is not the paper that is compelling, it is not the sheet with notes written upon it that is moving.
This is basic philosophy.
And if you destroy Tolstoy and his manuscript before he publishes, you destroy the story, which was only in the brain of Tolstoy and on that manuscript. If you destroy one of his books after it is published, it makes no difference because of all the other books with the same story, and all the other brains that remember it. A story (or symphony) is quite destructible if you catch it before it has a chance to propagate.
I agree. The existence of such an abstract object is contingent upon the minds that remember it. Here's a question, if there exists a copy of a novel (in some forgotten place) that no one has seen or heard of in a 1000 years, does the abstract object exist? Or, is it merely a potential while it sits dormant before a mind resurrects it from the pages? Hmm...