Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

[SteveII]

That's ludicrously easy a brain is the cause. Unless you can prove the brain is more than matter ?


Even if the brain is = to the imagination (which it is not), that still is not an example of a material cause. Mainly because neither the novel nor the symphony is material. Yet, they exist. 

Oh course a novel and symphony is material, A novel or symphony is created in the brain, written down, then conveyed by material means to another brain, then it is reconstructed in the brain, carried by sound to the hearer as sound waves, or read as a book.

At no point does it loose it reliance on the physical world, if you can demonstrate so, then please do.

Sorry, it's not. Both of those things are ideas. Ideas are not material they are abstract.  Reliance on the material for conveyance does not make them material. 

Thus it is universally acknowledged that numbers and the other objects of pure mathematics are abstract (if they exist), whereas rocks and trees and human beings are concrete. Some clear cases of abstracta are classes, propositions, concepts, the letter ‘A’, and Dante’s Inferno. Some clear cases of concreta are stars, protons, electromagnetic fields, the chalk tokens of the letter ‘A’ written on a certain blackboard, and James Joyce’s copy of Dante’s Inferno. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/abstract-objects/

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I know words are hard, but you really have to try...

Which of the above concepts are hard for you to understand?

Efficient causes.

Look at the quote I used above in response to Astreja . Especially the last paragraph where it pulls it all together.