RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 18, 2018 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 1:44 pm by I_am_not_mafia.)
(March 18, 2018 at 8:51 am)SteveII Wrote:(March 16, 2018 at 8:54 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Idea's like poetry and music are simply information created materially and passed materially from one place (or person) to another.
Your last sentence is the proof.
A novel or a symphony is something newly created that is not the same as the material object that might contain them. It did not exist before, it is not a reformulation of matter. It is new information. There is no way around this, you have a newly created immaterial object. Insisting that it is material because it relies on material things to exist is just pointing out a feature of our universe.
So fucking what? It still requires material and energy, i.e. physical stuff, in order to persist.
(March 18, 2018 at 8:54 am)Khemikal Wrote: Granted granted granted granted granted......now what. Cmon, let's get to the god part already, lol? You've been arguing this stuff for pages and we haven't seen the first bit about that, and this is supposed to be a good argument for a god? I kindof thought that a good argument for a god might at least mention a god, eventually.
I think the script was that we're meant to go 'ooooh that's blown my mind therefore maybe god'.
