RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 18, 2018 at 9:12 pm
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 9:17 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(March 18, 2018 at 4:31 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(March 12, 2018 at 4:07 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: JFC, Huggy. You can’t possibly be this much of a dolt. Before his Branham days, Upshaw was walking around on two legs getting his supposed cancer miraculously healed by a Brother Ogilvie. Upshaw is a crook and a liar. It took me about ten minutes of research to learn as much. The only desperate thing here is your credulity.*emphasis mine*
You’ve been had. These people were con-artists then, and their stories are still conning people like you today; people who want to believe accountings like these are true in the face of all evidence to the contrary.
And Ofc, none of this Hickey/Upshaw business has anything to do with demonstrating with evidence that light in a photo is god.
What you HAVE demonstrated in this thread is your passion for confirmation bias, your complete misunderstanding of the word ‘evidence’, and a total abandonment of critical thinking.
It's a fact the man has been on crutches for 66 years, if you want to maintain that he was faking a disability the whole time (which is highly irrational), then you're going to have to prove it.
Also how about posting up your sources?
I’m not saying the man wasn’t on crutches. I’m saying there is more than enough reasonable doubt that this wasn’t a ‘miracle healing’.
Quote:The picture of William Upshaw that has been painted into the minds of William Branham's followers is that of a frail, old man who was destined to a crippled life in a wheelchair. William Branham often mentions how the Congressman was so bad off that he had to be wheeled around, carried on beds, and practically unable to function. But in the newspapers, we find Upshaw travelling around in convoys of automobiles, walking around freely using his crutches, and speaking to multiple audiences per day -- both for policical speeches and evangelistic sermons. And those who paid close attention in the United States Congress noticed that something was not quite right with his stride while using crutches. It appears that the Congressman was using his crutches as a prop, often running through the floor without touching them to the ground.
In a 1915 article in the Shreveport Times, Upshaw claims that his bedridden state lasted only seven years. In fact, he claimed that it had been twenty years prior when he used a wheelchair.
"The name of 'Earnest Willie' was given me when I was on bed for seven years dictating letters for the papers, and it stayed by me for a while nearly twenty years ago when I used to lecture from a rolling chair, but now I am a man -- the editor of one paper, the husband of one wife and the daddy of a red-headed baby girl and I guess it is time for me to be called the husband of Mrs. William D. Upshaw."
- Congressman William D. Upshaw, The Times, Sat May 8, 1915.
Later, in July of 1949, Voice of Healing published an article written by Upshaw describing his healing by "Brother Ogilvie" of cancer. Upshaw mentions many healed, including lame walking, but makes no mention of his physical condition. Was he trying first to promote "Brother Ogilvie?" When that promotion failed, did Upshaw and Davis decide to promote Branham?
Why did William Branham paint this picture in his descriptions of the Congressman. And why did the congressman support these stories as he frequented the Branham meeting?
http://seekyethetruth.com/branham/resour...pshaw.aspx
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