RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 19, 2018 at 1:14 pm
(March 19, 2018 at 1:06 pm)SteveII Wrote: This is getting silly. An idea is always immaterial. What you mean is that at no time does it not reply on the material.
An idea cannot exist without material brains.
It's like saying a ripple is immaterial because you don't acknowledge that it requires some form of liquid to act in.
(March 19, 2018 at 1:06 pm)SteveII Wrote: Even if I granted that, so what? It is still an abstract object which by definition is not material.
Equivocation again.
Abstract objects are still dependent upon the existence of some form of matter. As I said, you cannot have a pattern of energy persist without matter.
Whether it's a book, symphony, idea, what you are referring to are patterns. All patterns require something material to be organised.
Not that I know why you are arguing this anyway.
