RE: Easter, Bloody Easter!
March 19, 2018 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(March 10, 2018 at 2:45 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 2:22 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He didnt stop it from happening, as He could have, since He is God. That doesn't mean the people who did it weren't acting on free will and thus fully responsible for the evil deed. (It also doesn't mean that it's ok to kill other people after the fact who had nothing to do with it just because they are of the same religion as some of the people who did. This goes without saying.)
I don't see it as a story of sadism at all, and neither is that the intended Christian message of the story. The story is of self giving love, and dying for the sake of saving other people. You personally may take it as sadism, but that isn't the intended message being protrayed whatsoever.
Anyway, I'm glad you don't think we are sadistic. Thats good. I'm also glad I was able to clear up the misconception you had that Easter is the celebration of His death. Hopefully other things have been cleared up too.
I am saying that I don't think you are sadistic. I bet there are other Christians that get some sadistic or masochistic pleasure out of reliving this bloody event every year. Mel Gibson for one. Jim Caviezel too.
I mean, sure, there are some sadists who are christian, just as I'm sure there are sadists from all walks of life lol.
I can't speak for Jim and Mel, but it seems a bit rash to accuse those 2 of being sadists. If I was a successful film director, I too would have wanted to make a movie depicting the life and death of Jesus. And if I was a male actor, I would have thought it an honor to play the role of Jesus in the film. And I'm certainly no sadist.
The point of the film isn't to take pleasure from watching torture (that's what the Saw movies are for). Similarly to movies like Schindler's List, the torture being shown is to depict just how horrible something was so we can better understand and appreciate what others went through, not for pleasure.
(March 11, 2018 at 9:45 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 9:46 pm)Succubus Wrote: Quelle surprise. Now that the raging battles on the subject of Christian doctrine and dogma has quieted down somewhat you now grace us with this wisdom. What a shame you couldn't support your colleagues in the dogfight.
There no Catholics in foxholes.
Lol, Succubus, you are so MEAN to CL! Why?!
I’m a little drunk. 🍷
Because my little Succie likes playing hard to get....
(March 13, 2018 at 1:32 pm)Libertarian God Wrote:(March 10, 2018 at 11:31 am)chimp3 Wrote: I saw "The Passion of Christ" by Mel Gibson and saw that as a twisted celebration that a sick mind felt needed to be relived over and over again. I grew up in an old Catholic Church that had the stations of the cross posted on the walls and little old ladies touching the images adoringly. The yearly live performances of the Crucifixion story in churches (on Sunday, not "Good" Friday) certainly qualify as a celebration.
I fucking and I repeat FUCKING can't stand Mel Gibson. That film was so stupid and was nothing but Christian propaganda.
(March 13, 2018 at 9:49 am)wallym Wrote: What business is it of yours if someone takes off friday! Unless you are signing their paychecks, YOU should stay out of it. Maybe people have emergencies. Even if it's just to go to the beach, you should keep your thoughts to yourself!
It's a joke, chill.
(March 10, 2018 at 11:09 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Lol, Ester is not the celebration of Jesus' death. Easter is His resurrection.
Jesus' death is remembered 2 days earlier on Good Friday, and it certainly is not a "celebration." It's a somber day where we are supposed to go to church, not eat meat, not party, and just have a quiet day remembering what Jesus went through.
Honest question, can you explain without using biblical allegories how what was claimed to happen actually happened using science? i.e. the resurrection
It can't be explained by science because Jesus' rising from the dead was a supernatural occurance. Science deals with the study of the natural world. You are correct, that naturally and scientifically, a person cannot die and then come back to life 3 days later.
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