RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 20, 2018 at 6:02 am
(This post was last modified: March 20, 2018 at 6:02 am by I_am_not_mafia.)
(March 19, 2018 at 7:25 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 19, 2018 at 9:19 am)Mathilda Wrote: No. They don't poof into existence.
What causes a snowflake to exist?
What I mean, is that I don't see anyone on the opposing side, making the argument that you are attempting to refute. And I'm glad that you think that snowflakes need a reason, for beginning to exist. I agree. And I'm sorry, but since I'm not making the argument that you are trying to refute, I don't really see the need to go into a number of things that cause a snowflake to form.
I did not say that they need a reason to begin to exist. That applies agency where there is none. Nor did I ever say that there was a single cause.
Religionists use such language because they ultimately want to convince everyone that there is a single god responsible for it all.
They do this because of their preference for binary, discrete thinking.
What I am trying to show is that things rarely, if ever happen because of a single 'cause', but because of a history of changes in the environment.
You're just trying to avoid the question so I'll make it easy for you:
So what is the reason for a snowflake to exist? What causes it to exist?
(March 19, 2018 at 8:39 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I've seen the same person argue, that things don't need a cause to begin to exists.
So who were you talking about?