Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

[possibletarian]

This is getting silly. An idea is always immaterial. What you mean is that at no time does it not reply on the material. Even if I granted that, so what? It is still an abstract object which by definition is not material. 

Abstract and concrete are classifications that denote whether a term describes an object with a physical referent or one with no physical referents. They are most commonly used in philosophy and semantics. Abstract objects are sometimes called abstracta (sing. abstractum) and concrete objects are sometimes called concreta (sing. concretum). An abstract object is an object which does not exist at any particular time or place, but rather exists as a type of thing, i.e., an idea, or abstraction.[1] The term abstract object is said to have been coined by Willard Van Orman Quine.[2] The study of abstract objects is called abstract object theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_and_concrete

I would agree about the silly, but not for the same reasons as you.

We can imagine abstract things, but the thought process that gets us there is material, it's the brain doing what the brain does, re-organising, collating and storing information, and every second of that is a material process, thoughts rely on energy to power the brain, the brain rely's on energy from food so on and so forth.

What we think of may be abstract, but we didn't get to that thought in a immaterial way. For that abstract though to continue in any way it must be stored, and shared in a material way. In other words the very thought is created in a material way.. no immaterial needed at any point.
And if not shared and the brain that has stored it shuts down, it is gone. We have no evidence to support an 'other wordly, existence or creation of idea's.

Idea's definitely do exist in a certain time and place The idea to write this reply existed at a certain point and will persist for, well as long as it does, and it certainly did exist and will exist in in my brain, and on the internet.

At what point do thoughts leave the material word and become immaterial objects of their own?