RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 20, 2018 at 12:13 pm
(March 20, 2018 at 11:55 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(March 20, 2018 at 11:09 am)polymath257 Wrote: One aspect of this is that there have to be *times* when !A happens and when A is the case. So both !A and A happen at some time. In other words, time is required for the argument.
Where you not arguing a moment ago, that time had a beginning? And also that time is related to physical matter? I thought that I was going to agree on this.
I mentioned the possibility that time had a beginning in the sense that it may not be possible to extend the time variable backwards past a certain point. This is the case, for example, in general relativity as applied to the universe as a whole.
That said, it is not known whether time had a beginning or not. When quantum mechanical effects are brought in, it is possible for the 'singularity' that prevents the time variable from being extended is smoothed out and for time to go infinitely into the past.
As far as we know, whenever there was time, there was mass, energy, and space.
