Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

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That also makes no sense. The term 'period' assumes a duration, hence it assumes time.

As for being 'logically prior', that is also a meaningless phrase in context. Logic doesn't have a causal relationship with anything in the real world since it is a *language* we use to describe the real world.

Actually, as far as cause/effect, there is the view that temporally it is simultaneous, but is logically prior.  There was a recent example in another thread of a ball breaking through a window.  The window breaks as the ball hits the window and transfers energy.

And that was incorrect. The reason that the ball breaks the glass is that the forces induced on the glass from the motion of the ball are sufficient to overcome the forces between the atoms in the glass itself. That is all because of the *physical laws* applicable to this situation. In particular here, it is the electromagnetic repulsion between the electrons of the ball and those of the glass as compared to the attraction between the atoms in the ball and between atoms of the glass that is relevant for the glass breaking.

Without physical laws, the 'logic' would give absolutely no information about this interaction. That is the only 'logically prior' here. The causality is *because* of the physical laws.

And the interaction does, in fact, happen through a period of time. In particular, the reaction of the glass to the ball takes time, it is NOT a simultaneous thing.